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Sunday, December 11, 2005

The conversation, conclusion

Okay, doesn’t nothingness define non-existence?
More or less, that’s what I’ve been saying, God is nothing
But then to believe in nothing, would be a non-existent hypothesis.
Exactly what I’m telling you. God doesn’t exist he is nothing, what part of that don’t you understand?
We have already established your belief in God now it’s just a matter of your acceptance of Jesus as Lord and Savior, but we are showing now that atheism does not exist.
Yeah but now I’ve got you, because by your own argument if a thought is something and something exists then I have thought about it and I believe that atheism does exist, so now what do you have to say?
But your belief tells you to believe in nothing, nothingness is an inconceivable concept. Remember even in nothing there is something, so I don’t understand how a belief in nothing can be upheld.
It’s not really a belief in nothing; it’s a belief in no God.
We have already established however your belief in God, so how can that be a belief? Your belief structure has a flaw. If you would like to fix that we could discuss how you might find salvation through belief in Jesus Christ.
No thanks.
You don’t want to know the truth?
I know the truth I know what I believe.
So you are then assured of salvation?
I don’t know nothing about that, but I do know that what I believe is the truth to me.
So truth is relative then? Is that what you are saying?
Yeah, you know everybody has there own perception of what is true.
Wow it would be great if the law worked like that, no your honor that is not one of my laws so I can’t be charged with it.
Now you’re talking.
So I’m not really sure if you are an anarchist or a relativist. Do you know?
I’m hopeless
We all are that’s why we need Jesus that’s why he paid the price for our sins that’s why we can’t do it on our own. I’ve got to get going, you have a great day and may God bless you
You too

The conversation pt 2

So if I give you that, then you have to concede that God would cease to exist as soon as the thought was done.
Everything man has created originated from just a thought, I believe that you would be hard pressed to stop thinking about it. Just because something is not on your mind for a moment, that does not defer its relevance.
Yeah but if God is just a thought, then once the thought is gone then so is God.
What about when someone else thinks about the thought that you call god? To be completely honest though you have to understand that God is more than a thought, much more.
So you said that atheism couldn’t exist, how can you explain that?
What does your atheist religion claim you believe in?
It’s not a religion; it’s a lack of religion.
If that were true there wouldn’t be so many people out there trying to evangelize for atheism. I would call it one of the more aggressive religions there is. So what is it that your atheism worships?
Nothing, that’s the point, there is no God.
Define nothing.
How do you define nothing? It is nothing, now I have to ask you are you stupid?
Possibly, but think about it in nothing, still there is something.
Huh?
What’s in your hand?
Nothing.
Okay so if you cupped your hand would it hold air?
Yeah, kind of.
Isn’t air one of those life sustaining somethings?
Yes, but there is still nothing.
If it is something you require to stay alive how can you say it is nothing? Even in the vacuum of space there is something, in all places at all times there is something. Something is like God in that aspect.
So God is something?
See I knew you would come around.
No wait a minute.